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In conversation with AES Fellow Dorothy Lucks
by Anthea Rutter
Members who have made a long-term and wide-ranging contribution to the AES and the field of evaluation are recognised through a special category of membership called 'Fellow of the AES'.
Dorothy Lucks was made a Fellow in 2021, having been in and contributing to the evaluation profession since the 1990s. Dorothy is the Managing Director of a WA based company, SDF Global, and specialises in the field of sustainable development. A long-time member of the local WA branch of the AES, Dorothy was also a member of the International Relations Committee for the AES Board.
In this blog, Dorothy speaks with Anthea Rutter (Research Fellow, Centre for Program Evaluation) about her time in evaluation, her long association with the AES, and what drives her in her work.
Tell me what brought you into the field of evaluation?
Coming into evaluation was not a conscious pathway. I was then on the management team of a national not for profit in Sri Lanka and had been working in projects we needed to monitor, measure and report on. It was getting bigger and bigger and more complex, so I had to think of different ways to evaluate so I could report. I was also learning to deal with different funders, reporting styles, as well as different demands from them in terms of measurement. Then I found I was doing it – I was doing monitoring and evaluation! To be honest I didn’t really realise it until I moved to Australia and looked for like-minded people and accidently found the AES. The AES was the first time that I connected with other people who were doing the same thing. |
In terms of your evaluation expertise what do you regard as your main areas of interest?
My passion is sustainable development. I use ‘sustainable development’ broadly, i.e., the connection between the environment, the economic and the social. My PhD topic was at the intersect of those three. This often brings me to into evaluations that are complex, covering the intersections between for instance, social justice and regional development, first nations’ development aspirations, eco-system development and agriculture in fragile locations, economic regeneration after civil conflicts and many others. This means applying a blend of evaluation methodologies and always very diverse stakeholder relationships. |
Looking back over your career, what have been the major challenges to your practice?
There are many challenges, and how do you distil those down into different aspects? From a practical point of view, the real challenge is the uncertainty of the workflow. Working as an independent evaluator, you are reliant on contracts. How do you keep the balance between keeping the work flowing with ensuring good evaluation practice. The challenge is, how do you deliver high quality evaluations within the realism of what can be achieved in the contracts you have. I would love to have the luxury of doing some research into evaluation approaches, but that is not funded, and you have to survive, so there is always an element of compromise, which is not always comfortable. That balance between saying you want to do your best, and to answer the questions that need to be asked, and draw out the learnings, means there is a tension between quality and depth and realism, and knowing when to make that call, both for outcomes and sanity. |
What have been the highlights in your evaluation career?
There are many good points in evaluation practice but it’s hard to pick highlights; the most important aspect is later on when the evaluation is finished when you can see people working on your recommendations. Projects then become programs, and the terminology you have used is adopted to build mutual understanding between different stakeholders, then your analyses are used for the next stage of planning. |
What have been the major influences which have helped to define your evaluation practice?
My field-based experience and being at the coal face of making things happen has influenced how I do every evaluation. I look at the theoretical and practical sides. So, I ask questions which others may not be able to ask. When I ask a question – I can ask in-depth questions that people understand, which allows you to go deeper, when you know the realities of implementation, and people understand what you are talking about. |
What are the main skills or competencies that evaluators need to have or develop to keep pace with emerging trends in evaluation practice?
Talking about competencies (for AES) was a real defining point in practice, because it influenced me a lot about what competencies are required. That helped me in my self-improvement. For a good evaluator you have to make sure that all those competencies are covered. Competencies have been a huge benefit to the sector. And I feel a lot of ownership of the AES ones, as they are good. The last thing is keeping up to date - the field changes, and if you don’t keep up to date, your practice suffers. |
How has the field of evaluation changed during your career?
It has moved away from just monitoring and reporting, more from output to outcome and even into impact. Also, from the project and program level evaluation to organisation, thematic and meta evaluations, which involves moving from simple approaches to complexity. I do a lot in that area. |
What do you see as the main social issues/problems that evaluators ought to be thinking about and seeking to resolve in the next decade?
I come back to where we started, which was focusing on sustainable development, about balancing the social, environmental and the economic. This is not sufficiently addressed. Look at the NDIS for example. It’s an economic program for people who are highly vulnerable and living in certain contexts. So, how do you find a pathway through that which is ethical, productive and gives the best outcomes and also the best results of taxpayers’ resources? |
How do you think the AES should position itself to be relevant in the future?
Pivoting is good. Having the membership committee is a critical way of doing that. As is having a designated committee which is in touch with members., and leadership on the Board who have a relationship across the world. I find that there is a lot going on in the space of environmental evaluation, although I have to go out of Australia to find that - in Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Canada, as well as some in the US. There’s not much here, in the climate change and environmental evaluation space. |
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Anthea Rutter
Anthea is Research Fellow, Centre for Program Evaluation.